dan simon, first to you, any big surprises? >> you know what, brooke, thanks to the internet, and all the leaks coming probably from apple suppliers, we didn't really see any surprises. they updated the imac, we saw the new 13 inch mac book pro. i guess what surprised me is the price of this ipad, $329. their competitors are a lot more aggressive when it comes to the price, $199 from google, $159 from amazon. so that was surprising to me. how about you? >> that was a big thing for me. as we head into holiday, tablet is a hot ticket item. for me, 329 bucks for the ipad mini, we have amazon kindles starting at $159, the nexus 7 at 200 bucks. for a consumer, $200 to $329 is a big difference. so i like to say, let's grab some popcorn and watch this play out because it is going to be interesting what consumers go for. if you want e-mail and the internet, can do that with any tablet. >> i have an ipad, i enjoy the larger screen size. why would someone want an ipad mini? is it the price point? >> well, you know what, it is smaller, so